I still wonder why my special items are not cut correctly around windows. I can understand the I-beams because I used wall macro for them.
My Inthermo and massive wood elements are cut horizontally by the window but vertical cuts into the elements doesn't appear. Would they appear if I put a horizontal normal beam as girt, and maybe also vertical all way around window, so the elements would be cut around it??
Well now it works to some extend. I am just not sure why my I-beams, Inthermo and massive wood elements are not cut correctly around windows etc?
Now you can see the results of todays experiments.
For some reasons I don't understand - my massive wood elements did not work. When I try to put them into the wall, I have "Exception Access violation" - and when I define posts in settings I can also not see the items for the elements in "Itemobjectbase" but the items for my I-beams are there. And if I call the name for the elements and put into wall the program shuts down. Why??
I am used to always draw in millimeters, so that could be why my Inthermo profile got to big...
Der_planner, can I ask you about how you defined the profile for your facadeboards? I mean did you put the profile coordinates in meter or in millimeter, and what units are you working with in Dietrichs construction program? That could maybe be why mine did not work.
And did you define your profile under beams or under panels or it does not matter??
It is a new installation - I never had more than this version of Dietrichs - it's only less than two months ago I got Dietrichs.
Yes I full understand your arguments. But with my idea the beam would act as one beam and not 3 items.
But I think for my own house, maybe I will make the I-beams manually in Dietrich and then if I make the timberlists - if I will buy the I-beams at Finnforest products, then I can list only the one flange of the I-beam, in order to see how many I-beams I need. Or if I want to produce the I-beams with my own bare hands, then I can make a normal timberlist.
The other thing that is discussing in this message is also very interesting:
Is it in any way possible to model the Inthermo N+F and the massive wood elements, with the correct cross section profile??
No - the project data programme never worked on this machine. I don't know how old it is, but not less than 3-4 years. It has 1,5 GHZ P4, and 384 MB Ram.
But it should not be very difficult to program I think (well of course I don't know). It is only to tell the program that this and this and this material / profile, belongs together so they would act as one beam.... It would be very nice, and would increase the level of the Dietrichs program.
Yes - I can work in Dietrich - drawing walls etc. But I can not go into for example material database etc.
I see now that the same problem is with "project data" - If I want to open the program project data, I get the message "Hinweis xxxxx" where xxxxx is my key number.
Can it be another problem - that I prefer to work in mm but the material database works in m, and then that causes a conflict? I will see.
Zitat von Der_PlannerAlles anzeigenA long time ago we discussed the same issue in the german forum. It is not possible to do what you want, except you split the T-beams into 3 parts, but working with them is no more fun and will cost triple time.
By definition all volumes can have a texture set with different:
- upside
- downside
- left and right sides
- begin and end sides
If you cut a beam, there is an definition angle that will define which texture will be used on each surface.
The T-beams will never fit into this definition.
I have an idea for a solution to this - it might not be possible now, but it could be done in an update:
In the material database you define each of the 3 parts with different textures, that the I-beam (or box beams for that matter, 4 parts) - and then there should be a possibility to tell the material database that these 3 items should be put together and act as one beam.
Interesting - when I did that with my inthermo, but it didn't work - it was wrong orientated and way to big. But maybe because I used posts - maybe it is possible as girts, but they are only horizontal
Another thing is that I wanted to use that kind of facade boards and I used WBOAK, but they did not get that profile. So maybe I should userdefine my prefered facadeboards.
Ok - thanks for the explanation. Of course I was thinking of the same way to solve it - by using 3 items - but of course this will not work very well in timber lists. But could be OK - if I decide to produce the I-beams on my building side, and not buy them.
In the picture below, you can see the results of tonights experiments. Of course the connectors between massive wood elements are cheeting, because they are inside the massive wood. But they are there! Another thing is that I am not sure if I used the correct texture for the massive wood - it doesn't look completely correct.
There one thing I don't like so much - the texture for the I-beams is so that all the I-beam looks like OSB but the flanges should be timber (SPF) or Kerto (Finnforest use Kerto) - is it not possible to do so? It doesn't look so nice to me.
No it seems like I cannot use the profile settings in wall design - even though I define it under beams. But all right - I just have to be satisfied with using panels.
But it is not so funny... :lol: I like the idea of being able to create a 100% realistisc model of the house constructions, but it seems to be only 99% possible... :wink:
He - he, experiments - that's right - I like to play with the software to see what can I do and what not.
But wait a minute - I will do another experiment.... :wink:
Ok - now I am ready for my next post :wink: - and I am sorry Rob Cullen but I read about your two cuts in one end of beam.... 
Well - I went to material database and I wanted to define a Inthermo board with N + F (nut and feder).
And that was quite easy - but two things didn't work exactly as I thought it would:
I defined a profile - why my board is rectangular in wall design?
I defined the thickness, length and width of board - why I have to define those again when I define new panel in wall design?
Ok - I look forward to take a look in the material database - it is a part of the program that I have not yet studied, very much - but it is a interesting part. Maybe I would like to define my own I-beams, because I would probably not have them delivered from Agepan - or maybe I would if the prizes are ok. Thinking of it I would have Inthermo delivered from Inthermo in Germany, because we don't have such product in Denmark, so why not also Agepan I-beams. FinnForest have I-beams - I should compare prizes from Finnforest and Agepan.
Hello. Rob Cullen - yes I have seen the preview option, and yes it can be quite useful, if you have to work with MOS and D-cam - but that would be my last option if I have no other options because it is a bit difficult to work in D-cam and MOS.
Rob Cullens and Der_planner's answers are a bit opposite - or maybe just two ways. What Rob Cullen said was what I was thinking to do - and starting new buildings I think about the length of the wall elements when I draw the walls in groundplan. But in stead of using MOS I think I would use wall macro to reassign some of the timbers belonging to the "cut away wall" - that is easier than MOS I think (maybe).
Der_planners suggestion sounds even better - but I don't remember to have seen any "split cut" option to cut a wall. But if it is there I think I would like that method - maybe. With this method the wall will still be 15 m long for example but split into two parts?
