Beiträge von Thorvald

Wooooooowwwwww..... Me not have version 10.... wrraaaaaa - mummy....

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Hi.

You see: I am making outside walls and I want to have OSB on the inside. I.e. main wall frame, insulated, PE-foil, OSB and then inside installation wall. Of course there are some inside walls that makes T-connection to the outside wall and these inside walls of course "breaks" the OSB slice outline in wall design. Then I thought: Ok, why not have the OSB go through, so in groundplan I temporarily adjusted the inside wall, so that it does not make connection with outside wall. But the OSB slice outline is still broken in wall design..... Even if I rightclick on the wall and choose separate, the OSB slice outline is still "broken".

This I simply don't understand. I know I can just move the slice outline - but shouldn't this work? That would be simpler.

Double doors? But there are double doors integrated in Dietrisch. Is it some special kind of double doors?

I am engineer too and I too would love to have the newest version of Dietrichs. But it is too expensive (I think that my boss thinks) - so I am still sitting with 7.03..........

Isn't it possible to control the slide direction? Ok, when I make double sliding door, it slides inwards. So I am not sure what is the problem. But else - yes, just make the door as a door opening, and insert the right door physically...

Thanks - it is a very nice setup and a very nice computer. The OpenGL 3D on the screen is one of my favourite 3D models. A quite big house and it contains (almost) everything we can do at the factory: Concrete elements of many kinds, wood elements of different kinds, steel/wood combo wall elements, balconies etc. etc. Markus (my teacher...) saw this model first hand a few years ago and he was impressed...

Setup (all new):

1) Computer: Asus G73SW-91229V.
2) Eksternal screen: Asus VK278Q (27").
3) Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800.
4) Mouse: Logitech Wireless Mouse M505.

I like this setup alot. The only thing I am missing, is to clean-up under the table...

I don't think I could work with more than one monitor and I cannot see that one would need it for Dietrichs work.

Hehehe first I didn't understand the comment about my calculator, but now I understand... Well I do not use that (I don't know how to use it) - but I use a quite old Hewlett Packard 48GX with 128 kB Ram... In my new keyboard there is also a calculator button. Push that and a calculator pops up on the screen - smart! Shhhhh - Markus would say that we don't need any calculator - it is built-in in Dietrichs...

And this is my setup of today:

[Blockierte Grafik: http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx81/Thorvald73/DSC05572.jpg]

Ok - what are your complaints about the software? Let's get it on the table, so Dietrichs knows what they should work with. Positive feedback is better than "I am king of Sweden" and "such kind of s...ware"...

I like this program very much - but I have also had ideas and some of those are actually in the newer versions of the program or available - like U-value calculation, heat loss calculation and better static software.

One of my complains today is that Dietrichs should update the core or engine of the program so that it can take full advantage of todays high speed and high capacity computers + be a little more future secured (support up to 8 cores in processor for example or what one could think of). Simply to make the program better to handle very big models and models with many parts. To take advantage of up to 32 GB Ram etc. That is my great wish of today.

Ok, I will aks the FreePDF guys. On below pictures you can see how it worked on my previous computer. Could it be that here, it was connected with the settings of another printer?

This is how it looks when I use ctrl+p on a document:

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And here I have gone into properties / saved settings / read ("indlæs"):

[Blockierte Grafik: http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx81/Thorvald73/Building%20construction/FreePDFXPpic2.jpg]

Do you have something like this? By the way on the previous computer the program was version 3.2.

Ok - I have:

Ghostscript: AFPL Ghostscript 8.54.
FreePDFXP: FreePDF 4.04.
Windows 7 64 bit.

Where did you get Ghostscript 8.7? And I have 64 bit Windows. Would that make a difference? Before I had Vista 32 bit.

Hmmm - what Ghostscript have you installed and what version of FreePDF XP?? And what Windows version (if that matters)?

Ok - it works - but it does not work in the same way as on my old computer. On that, I could get a "printer interface", where I could save printer settings, like A3 landscape color, A4 portrait, A3 landscape greyscale etc. - and just choose among those, to suit my print job.

Do you have that on your system Joachim Neumann??

All right - I got through it for now. How? I did it with a combination of replacing the hollow core slabs with new ones and with using panels, to make the cuts. Normally I don't think one has to use panels to cut in panels - but today that seemed to work better.

I think it is just so, that sometimes intersection volumes, requires a lot of patience...

But why is the function so unstable? Why sometimes it works and sometimes not?

Ok - this drives me nuts. It is still not working. It works in the massive slabs and in steel beams - but not in the hollow core slabs. And I am sure I have done it before. Is it a windows 7 "thing"?

Steel beam objects are profiled beams. Both my massive concrete slabs and my hollow core concrete slabs are made as panels in material database.

Yes - correct answer....

Hi.

I am having troubles with intersecting volumes - and I am doing or want to do cut-outs that I have done before.

I have a concrete deck with both massive deck elements and hollow core slabs. I want to make cuts to fit the elements together, for installation shafts and so on.

It seems like that today, I can do it in the massive slabs but not in the hollow core slabs. They are both made the same way in material database, as panels and inserted with the X / Y joists. I think I am normally able to make the same kind of cuts also in the hollow core slabs. To make these cuts, I make some blocks of SPF, that represents the border of the cuts - can be in the middle of an element or at the side.

Hi.

I cannot open the project data program, in order to work in the material database - directly, from desktop icon. The error message is DHPDAT.ini is missing. I can access the program from the main window in the construction program, but then I have to close my work down, to access it.

I am working on Windows 7, 64 bit now. I'd like to be able to open the project data program directly.

Below is the correspondance I have had with Dietrichs. I'd really like to help Dietrichs to become a even better 3D software package... The e-mails are with the newest first, so maybe one should read from the bottom...

Dear Dietrichs.

With what I am saying I don't want to offend Dietrichs. As I like the Dietrichs software very much and as I think it is one of the better 3D software packages available and I think the best among those I have actually tried.

So what am I trying to say? Well I am trying to help Dietrichs in the right direction. If Dietrichs should remain one of the best 3D software packages available, it needs to follow the tendencies in the construction world and in the digital world. I know that you are developing the software - i.e. it's functions and how these functions are set up. I can see that when I read on the webpage or in the forum. You have and are developing the statics program, you have included U-value and heatloss calculations and so on in the newer versions. I am still on version 7.03, so I don't know the newer versions first hand. That I am still on version 7 comes down to that the software have been too expensive to upgrade during the last few years, where the industry haven't been optimal. We have simply had higher priority on other things.

But what I am trying to say is, that it is not enough to develop on the functionallity of the program it self. For me it seems like the core or engine of the program develops slower than the hardware that we are using the program on. Even with version 7, I would expect a fluent 3D experience even with a relative big 21 apartment building, with 3½ wooden construction floors above the underground parking made with concrete elements.

So maybe it is time for Dietrichs, to develop the software in the direction of taking better advantage of today's fast and high capacity computers.

I am still not sure what you are thinking about when you talk about a "large number of small tubes has the same object-type and MOS-number than other wall parts".

I will try to translate something that someone said on another debate forum:

"One of the more interesting aspects with repetetive structures is that the most of today's applications support "instansing", meaning that one has a basic instans and hereafter just copies of this one - that can then be modified somehow. This is among others used in Maya, 3DsMax, AutoCad and other 3D applications. This means that it technically does not need to work with as much data, but it can take basis in a basic structure with individual modifications. That is why Maya today can handle hundreds of thousands of repetetive objects. This was something they actually also had problems with untill before "The Lord of the Rings" (Weta was actually taking part in developing this method)."

I don't know if this makes sence. But it does look like Dietrichs have problems to handle models that consists of a large amount of items - and perhaps also models that consists of very big items. With the latter I am thinking about, if I make a 3D model of the building and its surrounding area - with large areas of gras, roads and such big "ceilings" - plus big "walls", that are made to illustrate the sky. But I think the main problem with the software is the amount of items in a 3D model that it can handle fluently and perhaps the amount of "computerpower" the program takes advantage of. A limit of 2 GB Ram is very old fashioned today, for example. It should be unlimited, so that the faster and the more powerful the computer is, the better the program will run on that computer.

My best and kind regards, Thorvald.

Thorvald Johannes Pedersen skrev, Den 19-05-2011 15:37:
> Dear Florian.
>
> Really? I didn't think that there was such a thing as a too big model for Dietrichs. I guess this is some kind of Dietrichs problem and not really a hardware problem - because my new computer should be more than powerful enough to handle this model, in my opnion. Maybe Dietrichs should be better optimized to use as much as possible of the computers power - Ram, processor, GPU and GPU-ram. Of course this model contains a lot of items and it is a quite big house, but still. I am not sure what you are thinking about when you talk about a "large number of small tubes has the same object-type and MOS-number than other wall parts".
>
> Even with smaller models (that are still a little big), that I can view on my old computer, I don't get a fluent 3D experience with on the new computer. So I think Dietrichs needs to move forward and develop the software to be able to handle bigger and more complex models and take better advantage of today's high end computers. Dietrichs is a too expensive piece of software to not be able to handle big and complex building models. How did they make Taipai 101 or the even higher tower in Dubai - I just wonder? Of course that doesn't help me, if I don't upgrade my current Dietrichs version. Unless that development can be installed on older versions of Dietrichs.
>
> Best regards, Thorvald.
>
>
> Dietrich's Support skrev, Den 19-05-2011 15:17:
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>> Dear Mr. Pedersen,
>>
>> The problem with the position you sent is, that it contains to many parts.
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>> That is a problem not only with OpenGL but also with rotating or zooming the building or using the filter-function in DICAM.
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>> What makes things more complicated is, that e.g. the large number of small tubes has the same object-type and MOS-number than other wall parts. That makes it impossible to switch them off in display stile without switching off other important parts as well. The only way to switch off “unimportant” parts is to filter them by item#.
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>> The only way to get this position handeled is to reduce it in some way. When everything is visualized and switched on, it is in this case to much for display.
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>> We remain at your disposal for any further information.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Florian Strauß
>>
>> Dietrich’s AG
>> 3D CAD/CAM for timber construction
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>> Von: Thorvald Johannes Pedersen [mailtotjp@jofa-lt.dk]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2011 10:35
>> An: Dietrich's Support
>> Betreff: New computer - not much better OpenGL performance.
>>
>>
>> Hi.
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>> I have here attached the model position, that I can't open in OpenGL.
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>>
>> Best regards
>> Master of Science in Engineering
>> Thorvald Johannes Pedersen
>> Cederlunden 15, 1.th.
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Yeah I thought as well that in OpenGL it is mainly the grapfic card that is the "engine". But it is a bit surprisingly that the program itself uses only 2 GB Ram. Why limit it? If one is working with a very heavy drawing or a very heavy model, it's no wonder why it can sometimes be slow and heavy, if only 2 GB ram is used, even though more is available.

It's enough to send just the single position, right?

I have now installed the newest driver from Nvidia. But it doesn't seem to help. I have also tried to make some changes in the Nvidia controlpanel, like choosing Nvidia GPU for PhysX. Does Dietrichs use PhysX?

I have been thinking about another thing: Does version 7.03 not support 64 bit Windows and perhaps therefore not support the use of more than 3 GB Ram, even though I have 16 GB Ram??