Hmmm :-k I think now I did move the ceiling timbers away from the wall and from any wall (except from one problem - but first things first). I have looked through all walls and now there is now ceiling timbers in them.
... But where is the ceiling timbers. I can see it in D-cam and in ceiling design in the sections but the timbers is not shown in the plan??? It is there because I can "blind choose" a beam to change section t.ex. as you see in the picture.
So in my case the beams from the ceiling is in GF 1 wall 43 - in MOS that has a grey check in the check box. The GF 1 ceiling 1 is not checked.
There are three columns that can be checked. Should I check only in the middle column for GF 1 ceiling 1 and leave the check mark in wall 43 as is - and then add??
See my pictures below.
By a mistake a have moved ceiling timbers to a wall in MOS (I think working in MOS is very dangerous?). I was trying to copy the timbers in the one ceiling to another ceiling - but wat actually happened is that the ceiling timbers is now attached to walls. When I in MOS try to move the ceiling timbers from the wall back to the ceiling it doesn't work - but moves to another wall, that I have not checked in MOS. Why??
Maybe I am doing something wrong - exactly what boxes should be checked, unchecked and grey in MOS in order to move the timbers to the ceiling??
Ooh I thought it was a serious question the program was asking me, so I was careful to put this point to this point....
Well I have to live with it for now - it doesn´t matter very much.
Why when I put timbers into my 2nd ceiling the view is rotated 90 degrees. My ceiling at ground floor is viewed in the correct orientation - but when I go to ceiling 1st floor all building rotates 90 degrees - is it possible to avoid that or is it because I am reaching the limits of how big a structure the Dietrich program can handle??
As it is possible to copy timbers to equal walls - is it the also possible to copy timbers from one ceiling to another??? I see there is no "ceiling macro" - and I am trying building MOS, but I am not sure if I do it correctly.
Is it possible and how to copy timbers (not necessarily all) from one ceiling to another??
Maybe almost anything is possible in D-cam - but it is not easy, and it is not what I would like. Wall design is such a nice program, very easy to use - so I would like these things to be possible in wall design, without the need of using MOS, exploding etc. 
Well I have found other examples of where a 1 post to two beams shoulder connection would be usefull - so to me this debate is not finished. I would still like it to be possible in a better way than today.
Ok - I have seen now, that many or some webdomain providers in Denmark also provide a website program to design and write a website.
This "silverbird" only sell space and a webaddress, as far as I can see. Do they also have integrated a program that you use to design your webpage or did you buy one seperately?
If I delete pictures in my upload center - will they still be visible / available in the posts where the pictures are uploaded??
10. More flexible when working with user defined templates in D-Cad. Maybe I am not doing it in correct way, but in the list of drawings the name of all drawings is just A3 template or something like that - I would like the name I define in Dietrichs program to follow into D-cad. And in some cases the scale factor is not a choice.
Yesterday evening I tried first to delete some of the assisting geomtery, but not completely all. There was a change in speed, but after a while I realized that I needed more speed if I did not want to work all night to finish - so I put undo steps to zero - and THAT was a huge difference in speed - almost immediatly response on all my commands!!! I made 66 drawings with my own template, in about two hours - I was working really effective.
So what you are really saying is that in the future I cannot do this kind of structure!????? :? Not even with the explode method??
I really wonder why Dietrich will go a step back in stead of going two steps forward! Am I the only person in the world who would like to make this kind of beams over doors and windows?? I think that solution is common?
I don't like that software limits my solutions and force me to do other solutions!!
Well what you are saying is that I have to think about other solutions for future projects ](*,) One way could be a box - see picture. Hmmm strange - I thought that anything would be possible with Dietrichs! :cry:
The strange thing is that it worked in some walls and stayed ok, and in other walls it did not work and stayed not ok. So now I have done the explode thing in the walls where it was not ok.
A simple solution how to select both double beams would be to make it possible to select items in the section view at the right side of the wall!
So they should program it, he, he... The next question could be: Would it be possible to receive same result with another type of connection? I tried end lap joint, but I am not sure if it works.
You see at this picture how beatiful it is... :wink:
How should I explode it? Should I stand on the last shoulder and explode, or should I mark all shoulders and explode or should I explode shoulders one by one?
Dietrichs: This is really something that need a solution - if there are not other ways that works.
Hmmm... now I see that it is random if the program remembers the double shoulders or not - many of the was ok. But now I am checking the walls once again - and at least in one case the shoulders on the one beam were gone.
Maybe I should do what you say - to avoid the problems coming back when I send the project for production.
Hmmm... I think there is a problem - I did all these double beam shoulders yesterday, but today when I open the project they seem to be gone. I will return if this comes back.
